so has any human being who isn’t an MRA or a troll or a terf in disguise actually used the term ‘cotton ceiling’ or
I’m an MRA and I’ve never heard that term before. What is it supposed to mean?
it means nobody likes you go away
Gonna assume it’s not something I’d ever say then.
Cotton ceiling is the tendency of trans women to be excluded from the higher echelons of (cis-dominated) women’s and queer spaces — specifically within the porn industry, but also society in general. It is a manifestation of transmisogyny at the intersection of cissexism, misogyny, and the glass ceiling
I mean I don’t use it, and I don’t really understand it etymologically, and I think it’s couched in a lot of fancy language which means a lot less than it says, but… I don’t see what’s wrong with it, either…
You don’t see what’s wrong with women’s underwear being called a barrier to be broken through?
the underwear being referred to ISNT the cis women’s; it’s the trans woman’s (or fat, disabled, nonwhite, etc. woman- the cotton ceiling often refers to radicalized bodies in general). the implication is that what is in the trans woman’s pants is excluding her from spaces and connections, and it’s something she needs to overcome. transphobes twisted the language the other way to demonize trans women.
Dude, I was around for the Cotton Ceiling Conference.
Like, literally irl around. It was hosted nearby, even, and I spoke with Morgan Page, one of the people presenting it.
It distinctly referred to the underwear of lesbians who refused to find trans women sexually attractive.
But hey, don’t take my word for it! Let’s hear from Avory Faucette, a trans activist involved with the Cotton Ceiling:
[T]he cotton ceiling [is] us[ed] to challenge cis lesbians’ tendency to support trans causes generally but draw the line at sleeping with trans women or including trans lesbians in their sexual communities.
Drew Deveaux, the originator of the term, is even more specific:
“The cotton ceiling is a theory proposed [by trans porn star and activist Drew DeVeaux] to explain the experiences queer trans women have with simultaneous social inclusion and sexual exclusion within the broader queer women’s communities. Basically, it means that cis queer women will be friends with us and talk day and night about trans rights and ending transmisogyny, but will still not consider us viable sexual partners.
The term cotton ceiling is a reference to the “glass ceiling” that second wave feminist identified in the workforce, wherein women could only advance so high in the workforce but could not break through into positions of power and authority. The cotton represents underwear, signifying sex.”
So right there from the horses’ mouth–
The cotton ceiling represents underwear, signifying sex, and the underwear in question refers specifically to lesbians’
Please, don’t try to retcon history to someone who watched it go down.
They are trying to backtrack and rewrite their own disgusting misogynist terms to make them more palatable to the masses. Nope. The cotton ceiling is most definitely rape culture rhetoric. Anyone who says otherwise is flat out lying because they know how disgusting it makes them look.
“Sexual exclusion”. What a rape-y thing to call women’s natural boundaries.
^ From the horses mouth (again)
^ “Breaking sexual barriers” (implying that the “cotton” part of “cotton ceiling” = women’s underwear to be “broken” through, as one would wish to “break” through a glass ceiling)
^ Even from a pro-trans perspective this sounds entitled and rape-y as shit!!
Of course they are. They got called out for what it is and now it has to be the terf’s fault somehow.
“to end exclusion of trans women in queer communities and get us laid”
Spoken like a true man. Only a man would think not getting his dick wet is a cause for activism and campaigning. Literally only a male would create a term and make a whole ass documentry, to complain about him not being allowed to rape be included in a lesbian’s sex life.
Big Mean Sweaty Dyke 