radicalmathematical:

wetmeadow:

iburnedkeysgucci:

I hope you guys realize that when trans people and our allies say it’s transphobic to exclude all trans people from your dating pool, we’re not talking about genitial preference or repulsion. Genitalia is important to some people’s relationships and that’s fine. It’s not fine when you reduce trans people to just sex traits we may or may not have and judge us based off of things you’re not sure of. Y’all are hyper-fixated and obsessed with our bodies even without dating in the picture, so it’s already much deeper than a simple “preference” or repulson.

If you don’t wanna date a trans person so be it, no one’s forcing you (and to be frank, we don’t want to date you either if you’re a transphobe), but if you’re excluding all trans people or just the ones whose gender is congruent with your sexuality, it’s most definitely due to transphobic beliefs about trans people and we’re allowed to be upset about that. Again, not all trans women have penises or trans men have vulvas; if a straight man is a attracted to a trans woman he’s not gay or bisexual. This mentality is caused by stigma towards us/our bodies and has killed us and justified our deaths legally through “trans panic defense.” If you’re not wanting to date an individual trans person, that alone doesn’t make you transphobic but when you say you would never date a trans person, it’s just as bigoted as excluding people by race, weight, disability, etc.

Genitalia is important to some people’s relationships and that’s fine. It’s not fine when you reduce trans people to just sex traits we may or may not have 

and judge us based off of things you’re not sure of.

You just said that it’s fine if genitalia is important, and then in the very next sentence you’re suddenly saying it’s not fine. you’re not making any sense. 

And what do you mean “we may or may not have”? What do you mean “things you’re not sure of”? There are only two possibilities: either the trans person has had bottom surgery or not. I can be sure that a trans woman will either have a penis or a neo-vagina. A neo-vagina is not the same thing as an actual vagina. 

If it’s fine, as you said, to think genitalia is important, then it should also be fine to only want a natural vagina or a natural penis. 

If you don’t wanna date a trans person so be it, no one’s forcing you

Nobody is being forced, sure, as in nobody is having a gun to their head, but when you say that people are bigoted if they say no, then you’re using social pressure as a means of coercion. If a lesbian agrees to have sex with a trans woman simply out of fear of being labelled a transphobe and shunned by her community if she says no, then she will experience sexual trauma. 

(and to be frank, we don’t want to date you either if you’re a transphobe) 

This is so disingenuous. If you honestly didn’t want to date someone anyway, you wouldn’t care about their reasons for saying no to you. But ok, let’s say I believe you. You don’t want to date people who are not attracted to you. Good, then leave them alone and don’t write posts about how they’re bigoted for not wanting to date you. 

but if you’re excluding all trans people or just the ones whose gender is congruent with your sexuality, it’s most definitely due to transphobic beliefs about trans people and we’re allowed to be upset about that.

No, you can’t just decide for other people what their reasons are for not being attracted to you. There will always be people who are only attracted to the same sex, whether you like it or not. That has nothing to do with “transphobic beliefs about trans people”. It has to do with only wanting to date people with a certain kind of body, which can not be achieved through surgery. 

Again, not all trans women have penises or trans men have vulvas

to my knowledge, “afabs” cannot be trans women, and “amabs” cannot be trans men. Babied born with vulvas are the ones who are “assigned female”. Babies born with penises are the ones who are “assigned male”. Thus, a trans woman by definition cannot have been born with a vulva, and a trans man by definition cannot have been born with a penis. And like I said earlier, what can be achieved through surgery isn’t the same thing. 

you could make the arguement that penis repulsion wouldn’t be a problem anymore of the trans woman had bottom surgery, since the penis is gone. The thing is though, that sexuality is not only defined by what we don’t want, it’s also (mostly, I would say) defined by what we want. a woman who actively desires natural vaginas will not want to have sex with a trans woman, surgery or no surgery. 

If you’re not wanting to date an individual trans person, that alone doesn’t make you transphobic but when you say you would never date a trans person, it’s just as bigoted as excluding people by race, weight, disability, etc.

being homosexual is not and will never be bigoted. 

also, since you bring up the comparison to other oppressed groups, I gotta say I’ve never seen activists fighting for the rights of any of those groups make campaigns with the purpose of guilting people into having sex with them. 

No means no. Consent given purely out of fear of repercussions if you say no is not actual consent. It’s incredibly dangerous to imply that asserting sexual boundaries is bigotry. 

This is a really long post when all OP meant to say was “I am a homophobe.”